An MIT (Turkish secret police) agent takes Ka to look at the boys they’ve arrested to see if he recognizes any of them as the murderer of the Institute of Education director or as the boy who arranged his meeting with Blue: Ka does not recognize anyone. He is initially relieved that he does not see Necip, but the agent then takes him to a morgue where he sees Necip’s dead body.

Ka meets with Sunay Zaim at Sunay’s headquarters. As Sunay discusses his hopes to use art to effect political change, Ka thinks about Sunay’s past career as an actor and his “campaign” to play Atatürk, a Turkish national hero. When Sunay publicly remarked that he’d like to play the Prophet Muhammad someday, the public turned against him. This controversy started Sunay’s fall from fame and his entry into politics.

Sunay tells Ka that he devised the plan for the coup after a drunken conversation with Colonel Osman, his former classmate. Sunay is using a walkie-talkie throughout his conversation with Ka and at one point leads Ka outside. From the vantage point of a bridge, they see and hear a tank opening fire on a dilapidated house; Ka and Sunay then go back inside.